{"id":5963,"date":"2023-08-31T09:33:07","date_gmt":"2023-08-31T08:33:07","guid":{"rendered":"httpss:\/\/www.advantagego.com\/?p=5963"},"modified":"2025-04-08T07:42:26","modified_gmt":"2025-04-08T07:42:26","slug":"new-podcast-with-craig-kingaby-and-mark-heath","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.advantagego.com\/en-us\/content\/new-podcast-with-craig-kingaby-and-mark-heath\/","title":{"rendered":"Recipes for success in a specialised market"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p><iframe title=\"Ep180 Craig Kingaby CEO Meridian &amp; Mark Heath CEO Acies: Playing our own game\" allowtransparency=\"true\" height=\"150\" width=\"100%\" style=\"border: none; min-width: min(100%, 430px);height:150px;\" scrolling=\"no\" data-name=\"pb-iframe-player\" src=\"https:\/\/www.podbean.com\/player-v2\/?i=7t286-148f7d4-pb&amp;from=pb6admin&amp;share=0&amp;download=1&amp;rtl=0&amp;fonts=Tahoma&amp;skin=3267a3&amp;font-color=&amp;logo_link=episode_page&amp;btn-skin=1b1b1b\" loading=\"lazy\"><\/iframe><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>The market has got more specialised, but become less entrepreneurial, note guests in the latest Voice of Insurance podcast, offering some lessons for success in the broking and MGA space.<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The latest guests of the Voice of Insurance Podcast were Craig Kingaby, CEO of Meridian Risk Solutions, and Mark Heath is CEO of Acies MGU. Together they run a London-based diversified specialist insurance business, with differentiated broking and MGA arms.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Both have worked for much larger organisations, AIG in Heath\u2019s case, Aon for Kingaby. Their new business is largely self-funded and wholly management controlled. It has big growth plans, focused on building a generational business.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>MGA tech<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Kingaby shared one of the primary reasons MGA groups have struggled or failed in recent years was a tendency to \u201cover promise and under deliver\u201d on technology, before underwriters got into the business, leading to later delays and disappointments.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u201cA lot of them were quick out of the box, because they hired some people with income quickly,\u201d Kingaby said. \u201cBut they got to a certain size and they had to scrap everything and start again because the minute the underwriters turned up within the business, they realised their systems were awful and didn&#8217;t do what they needed them to do.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The result, he said, was that such MGAs risked becoming \u201ca very people intensive business\u201d to make up for misfiring technology. Instead, the two of them decided to \u201cspend a lot of time\u201d building an MGA technology platform, something they acknowledged could only be done in a management controlled firm.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u201cThe agreement that Mark and I had before he joined the business is that the first thing we would do would not be to hire a single underwriter until we had built the [technology] platform that we knew could be scaled,\u201d he said.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Built in-house<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Heath revealed it took more than a year to build an underwriting technology platform, with some third party help, to serve the Acies MGU portfolio of MGAs, each with their own different underwriting specialisms.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u201cWe\u2019re not developers or program managers,\u201d he said. \u201cWhat we do know is how the technology should function, and how to apply the technology to what it needs to do.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Off-the-shelf advantages of speed can be fast negated if a software solution is not sufficiently tailored to meet the specific and different requirements of those MGAs, Heath suggested.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Building something bespoke was therefore a focus, as was the desire to not manage multiple technology supplier relationships.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u201cIf you&#8217;ve developed something, it&#8217;s not then going to be on general release to everyone else, and you&#8217;ve also got the ability to build an end-to-end solution rather than buying bits and pieces,\u201d Heath added.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Plugs and sockets<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u201cIt is not rocket science to get a good technology platform, but it takes time,\u201d Heath said. \u201cOnce you&#8217;ve got a digital plug, part of your partnership is figuring out who&#8217;s got a digital socket.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Bordereau \u2013 an alien term beyond the insurance market \u2013 is likely obsolete as a concept, he suggested, but insurance companies are still relying on them to transmit management information in a format they recognise, and are unlikely to wean themselves off soon.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u201cWe provide all of our inshore partners with a live dashboard to see our data and the performance of the portfolios. We still provide them with the bordereau because that\u2019s the way our market asks for it,\u201d Heath said.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>APIs have been around for at least a decade, but many insurance partners, from carriers to loss adjusters, still do not have mature APIs in place, he emphasised. However, this can become an opportunity for partnering firms.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u201cIf you\u2019re in the position to deploy APIs very quickly, and if you&#8217;re dealing with someone that hasn&#8217;t got a digital socket, but actually has the right attitude and wants to get to that place, they\u2019re exactly the sort of partner that we can work with,\u201d he added.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>The market has got more specialised, but become less entrepreneurial, note guests in the latest Voice of Insurance podcast, offering some lessons for success in the broking and MGA space. 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